Twitter Chat with Olugbemisola Rhuday-Perkovich

In a wide-ranging chat earlier today ("today" actually being January 22nd, 2010; this post has been backdated because of space issues), Olugbemisola Rhuday-Perkovich and I discussed writing, editing, character-building, and race in publishing with a group of thoughtful Twitterers. Le transcript:

January 22, 2010
2:23 am	olugbemisola:	RT @srjohannes: RT @chavelaque: @olugbemisola and cheryl will Twitter-chat Friday from 12-1 EST, hashtag #8GS0. Details: http://shar.es/aTaV5
2:28 pm	chavelaque:	Last reminder: @olugbemisola and I Twitter-chat TODAY from 12-1, hashtag #8GS0. Transcript will be posted afterward.
2:30 pm	SaraKase:	RT @chavelaque: Last reminder: @olugbemisola and I Twitter-chat TODAY from 12-1, hashtag #8GS0. Transcript will be posted afterward.
2:30 pm	TaraLazar:	EIGHTH-GRADE SUPERZERO! RT @chavelaque: @olugbemisola & I Twitter-chat TODAY from 12-1, hashtag #8GS0. Transcript posted afterward. #kidlit
2:31 pm	JacquiRobbins:	RT @chavelaque Last reminder: @olugbemisola and I Twitter-chat TODAY from 12-1, hashtag #8GS0. Transcript will be posted afterward.
2:33 pm	victoriajcoe:	RT @chavelaque Reminder: @olugbemisola and I Twitter-chat TODAY from 12-1, hashtag #8GS0. Transcript will be posted afterward. #kidlit
2:42 pm	AALBooks:	TODAY twitterchat with @olugbemisola and @chavelaque 12 pm EST SHARP use hashtag #8GS0. Be there or be a SUPERZERO!
3:20 pm	inkyelbows:	Twitterchat: @olugbemisola & @chavelaque TODAY 12-1p EST, hashtag #8GS0. Details: http://shar.es/aTaV5 (via @srjohannes)
3:22 pm	hashtager:	# Twitterchat: @olugbemisola & @chavelaque TODAY 12-1p EST, hashtag #8GS0. Details: http://shar.es/aTaV5 (via @srjohannes)
5:00 pm	chavelaque:	<> Hello, anyone? #8GS0
5:01 pm	olugbemisola:	I'm here! (I think) #8GS0 #8GS0
5:01 pm	HeleneBoudreau:	RT @chavelaque: <> Hello, anyone? #8GS0
5:01 pm	StephanieDBrown:	Hello! Thanks for doing this. :) #8GS0
5:02 pm	victoriajcoe:	Congrats on the book! Crazy in love with the characters! #8GS0
5:02 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	I'm here, coffee in hand. It's sleeting outside, so I'm relieved to be inside listening to you two! #8gs0
5:02 pm	chavelaque:	Oh, good! Welcome, everyone, & good to see you as always, @olugbemisola. :-) #8GS0
5:03 pm	lauram68:	@chavelaque hey chica! #8gs0
5:03 pm	olugbemisola:	thanks! this will be fun. #8GS0
5:03 pm	StephanieDBrown:	I ordered #8GS0 yesterday and I can't wait for my copy to arrive in the mail! I keep hearing how wonderful the characters are.
5:04 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown thank u! character is my favourite part of the writing process #8GS0
5:04 pm	chavelaque:	Just to dive right in, Gbemi - I've heard you say SUPERZERO started with an image. What was it, & how did you develop it from there? #8GS0
5:04 pm	thebrainlair:	i just started reading. I'm at the part when Reggie goes to the homeless shelter with the youth group. Is it okay to join? #8gs0
5:05 pm	olugbemisola:	a boy in his bed in the middle of the night with the cover pulled over his head because there were bugs loose in his room #8GS0
5:05 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque & he was terrified that one would crawl into his mouth. & it was secretly being filmed 4 a school TV show. #8GS0
5:05 pm	chavelaque:	@thebrainlair Absolutely! The convo will be more general/writing/etc. than book-plot focused. #8GS0
5:05 pm	olugbemisola:	@thebrainlair please do! #8GS0
5:05 pm	thebrainlair:	RT @chavelaque: dive right in, Gbemi - Ive heard U say SUPERZERO started w/ an image. Wht was it, & how did U develop it from there? #8GS0
5:06 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque all of that changed, including his age, but his personality remained the same #8GS0
5:07 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Yup! And it really did start w/ ideas of embarrassment at school, fear, how that's connected to home . . . #8GS0
5:07 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola so it seems that photo of a boy's fears spoke to you? #8GS0
5:07 pm	thebrainlair:	Join the chat with @olugbemisola and @chavelaque about writing and 8th grade superzero #8gs0
5:07 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i did not at all expect to develop that image into a book #8GS0
5:08 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown definitely. that time during the teen years... #8GS0
5:08 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola You had to write three pages for a class or writing group, right? #8GS0
5:08 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown that acute self-consciousness... #8GS0
5:09 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	Are YOU afraid of bugs? Or TV shows? Or did you draw on other fears? #8gs0
5:09 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque yes, it was the night b4 the application was due 4 a wkshp w. Paula Danziger #8GS0
5:09 pm	olugbemisola:	@SaraLewisHolmes i am afraid of bugs now, i'm sorry to say. didn't used to be! i used to make 'ant hospitals' when i was a kid! #8GS0
5:10 pm	olugbemisola:	@SaraLewisHolmes i try to hide my current fear from my bug-enthusiast daughter. #8GS0
5:10 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola So where did you take it from there? #8GS0
5:11 pm	chavelaque:	Also what strikes me about it is that so often, as an editor, I'm trying to push through the story/action to get to the prime emotion #8GS0
5:11 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque Paula really encouraged me to continue on, and I didn't listen to her for a long time, but #8GS0
5:11 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque the character stayed with me #8GS0
5:12 pm	chavelaque:	+ that the scene needs to convey, so we can better build action to do that - sounds like you started with emotion & built from there #8GS0
5:12 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque and after deciding to change Reggie's age from 10 to 13, there were themes that i really wanted to explore #8GS0
5:13 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque definitely. character and emotion are my favourite parts of the process. #8GS0
5:13 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Did you develop Reggie consciously? Profiles, taste charts, etc.? Or more through just writing? #8GS0
5:14 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i spend a *lot* of time thinking & writing notes, #8GS0
5:14 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque I do a lot of "think" writing, & imagine my characters in different situations, at different points during the day... #8GS0
5:15 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque when i'm riding the train or walking, i might imagine "what would x do in this situation, or in this conversation, #8GS0
5:15 pm	olugbemisola:	or if she had to confront that person" etc. a lot happens in the course of revision too. & sometimes a scene will come to mind, #8GS0
5:15 pm	victoriajcoe:	@olugbemisola, How did you decide how much personal context to give each 2ndary character (eg, Vicki, Donovan)? #8GS0
5:16 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque sometimes i see people who remind me of some aspect of a character, and observe them for a while. #8GS0
5:16 pm	olugbemisola:	@victoriajcoe Vicky is NOTHING like any Vickys I know! :) #8GS0
5:17 pm	victoriajcoe:	@olugbemisola I'm serious! #8gs0
5:17 pm	olugbemisola:	@victoriajcoe I was very interested in an 'ensemble piece', and i think that #8GS0
5:17 pm	olugbemisola:	@victoriajcoe well-developed 2ndary characters really move the story along and go along way toward the MC's growth #8GS0
5:18 pm	olugbemisola:	@victoriajcoe and the 'mean' characters are a lot of fun! #8GS0
5:19 pm	victoriajcoe:	@olugbemisola I loved what you said: Everyone has a story, and everyone's story matters #8gs0
5:19 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola @victoriajcoe There's one scene w/ Vicky in the cafeteria we played and played with to get right -- #8GS0
5:19 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	I agree. Outstanding secondary characters are necessary for me to fall into the world of a book. Can't just be the MC. #8gs0
5:19 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i don't do much character journaling, but i did 4 reggie because i struggled quite a bit with making him sympathetic #8GS0
5:20 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque without making him seem too whiny. #8GS0
5:20 pm	chavelaque:	+ I think it came out of the MS once, then went back in - b/c it did show that Vicky had feelings, & a story, when she comes off hard. #8GS0
5:20 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola how long did you work on it before you started working with @chavelaque? #8GS0
5:21 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque that was important to me, and in a way it was equally important to me to leave out a lot of Donovan's backstory #8GS0
5:22 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown well...i started those first three pages in 2002, then i didn't do anything with it until the summer of 2006 when i #8GS0
5:22 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown queried @chavelaque #8GS0
5:22 pm	victoriajcoe:	@olugbemisola @chevaleque Yes, the 2ndary characters' stories seem to matter and it's all very satisfying #8gs0
5:23 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown i shouldn't say i didn't do anything...i think my subconscious worked on it a lot, and oh! #8GS0
5:23 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Wait, you hadn't written the book when you queried me? #8GS0
5:24 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown i did a fantastic workshop with author kate morgenroth and worked out some of the chapters & themes then #8GS0
5:24 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque um. #8GS0
5:24 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque how would you define 'written'? #8GS0
5:24 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola I did not know this. Normally I disapprove, b/c I think writers shld be committed w/o editor's interest. #8GS0
5:25 pm	olugbemisola:	@victoriajcoe thank you! #8GS0
5:25 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i was stuck for a long time, and my master plan #8GS0
5:25 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola But I will forgive you. :-) - Sry, just saw yrs. "written" = "completed draft." #8GS0
5:25 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque was that querying you would get me over the finish line #8GS0
5:26 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola It sounds like you did a lot of writing in those yrs btw 02-06; and I know every writer's process is different. #8GS0
5:26 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque thank you! (but, don't try this at home, kids.) #8GS0
5:27 pm	KarenMusings:	@olugbemisola Were you involved in any critique groups when you were writing the book? If so, were they helpful? #8GS0
5:27 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola I was surprised you queried me, honestly, b/c it seems often Black writers submit mostly to Black editors-understandably #8GS0
5:27 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown i did. i have journals and notebooks full of scenes, notes, random thoughts, etc. that all #8GS0
5:27 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown contributed to the final story #8GS0
5:28 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque well, for one thing, there weren't very many 2 submit to, which is a problem #8GS0
5:28 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola Picking up from @chavelaque comment, what made you query her? #8GS0
5:29 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque & i had spent a lot of time reading your blog and going over books you'd edited, and thought that you would connect #8GS0
5:29 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque with some of the themes in the story #8GS0
5:30 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola Got my answer. :) #8GS0
5:30 pm	olugbemisola:	@KarenMusings i was in one with kate morgenroth that was very helpful, especially in highlighting Reggie's positive qualities #8GS0
5:30 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Which I did! And I was honored/excited to work on it. #8GS0
5:30 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown ok, cool! :) #8GS0
5:31 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque thank you! right back at you. you were so helpful in the revision process #8GS0
5:31 pm	editorgurl:	Listening in on the great conversation with editor @chavelaque and @olugbemisola right now. Follow with hashtag: #8GS0
5:32 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque esp. because you care about structure and story and look for ways to construct a story #8GS0
5:32 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola I admit I sometimes also felt like Stupid White Editor, not quite getting something outside my experience. #8GS0
5:32 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque without sacrificing its emotional heart #8GS0
5:33 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola I was inspired by your author video. You'd make a great speaker @ libraries, bk stores & schools. Any dates set yet? #8GS0
5:33 pm	chavelaque:	+ But I felt that way with @saralewisholmes's OPERATION YES too, where I was Stupid Civilian Editor, not getting something military... #8GS0
5:33 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque the important thing was that you were willing to engage, and didn't dismiss it as alien simply because of the race of #8GS0
5:33 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque the characters. #8GS0
5:33 pm	KarenMusings:	@chavelaque Do you think that writers of color are sometimes put into a box of the type of topics that they can write? #8GS0
5:33 pm	gregpincus:	Me, too! RT @editorgurl: Listening in on the great conversation w/ editor @chavelaque and @olugbemisola right now.Follow with hashtag: #8GS0
5:34 pm	chavelaque:	+ A big part of being an editor: being humble & getting educated by yr authors, & helping share their story clearly w/ all readers. #8GS0
5:34 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i do appreciate editors, readers, etc. of other races, ethnicities, & cultures who are willing to cross borders, #8GS0
5:34 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@KarenMusings Great question! #8GS0
5:35 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque engage, educate themselves... in the end, that willingness 2keep trying to get it right, on all sides, is vital #8GS0
5:36 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Me too! "the willingness to keep trying to get it right," even when miscommunications or misunderstandings happen -- #8GS0
5:36 pm	thaliachaltas:	RT @gregpincus: @editorgurl: Listening in on the great conversation w/ editor @chavelaque and @olugbemisola right now.Follow hashtag #8GS0
5:36 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown thank you! that was hard. and yes, i am doing one next week! #8GS0
5:36 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Crucially important. & everyone getting their egos out of the way for the good of characters, story & book. #8GS0
5:37 pm	olugbemisola:	@KarenMusings absolutely. #8GS0
5:37 pm	olugbemisola:	@KarenMusings it's offensive, and silly, really... #8GS0
5:37 pm	bonnieadamson:	Also lurkimg . . .RT @gregpincus @editorgurl: Listening in on great conversation w/ editor @chavelaque and @olugbemisola right now. #8GS0
5:37 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	@chavelaque You were NEVER Stupid Civilian Editor. Always curious, kind editor. #8gs0
5:38 pm	olugbemisola:	@KarenMusings just like anyone else, our stories are about more than the colour of our skin, though they are very much impacted #8GS0
5:38 pm	olugbemisola:	@KarenMusings by that, and very much enriched by that as well. #8GS0
5:38 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola It didn't look hard. It seems u spoke from the heart in that video. I knew then that your book would read the same way. #8GS0
5:39 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque that was why i was stuck 4 such a long time... #8GS0
5:39 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i was thinking more about me the author than the characters and their stories #8GS0
5:39 pm	2nickels:	@olugbemisola Sounds like you started with characters (not surprising! such good characters!) - how did the plot come into place? #8gs0
5:39 pm	KarenMusings:	RT @StephanieDBrown: @olugbemisola It seems u spoke from the heart in that video. <--Yes, totally agree. Loved it. #8GS0
5:39 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown thank you! it really helped that it was done with family -- a filmmaker who is a very dear friend, my husband, #8GS0
5:40 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown my sister, and my daughter (who was an exceptional crew member!) i wouldn't have done it otherwise. #8GS0
5:41 pm	olugbemisola:	@2nickels i did early on have an idea of the school election...and of my MC having thrown up on the first day of school #8GS0
5:41 pm	bonnieadamson:	@olugbemisola Adding my congratulations on a beautiful trailer. #8GS0, a
5:41 pm	olugbemisola:	@2nickels & needing 2 get past that. a lot of the work that i did with children & teens in the meantime really informed the story #8GS0
5:41 pm	chavelaque:	@saralewisholmes Well, thx! But I *felt* like Stupid Civilian Editor. & it's hard, when I'm used to being Editor w/ (some) Answers - #8GS0
5:42 pm	olugbemisola:	@bonnieadamson thank you! #8GS0
5:42 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque you are The Editrix! #8GS0
5:42 pm	chavelaque:	+ to let go & admit what feels like stupidity. #8GS0
5:42 pm	olugbemisola:	@victoriajcoe you should have seen me in high school! :) #8GS0
5:43 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Process Q's: What's yr usual writing schedule? Morning, midday, or night? Pen & paper or computer? Best writing place? #8GS0
5:43 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i think it was katherine paterson who wrote that a stupid person is someone who doesn't know today #8GS0
5:44 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque what u found out yesterday. also, accepting ignorance and moving forward from there is not stupidity! #8GS0
5:44 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i think i am at my best in the morning, after prayer. #8GS0
5:45 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola. V. true, thanks. But did not intend this to turn into Reassure-Editor Chat! Just admitting humility. ;-) #8GS0
5:45 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque But i?ve had to learn to use whatever time i have; sometimes i don?t get the ideal ?writerly? time every day #8GS0
5:47 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i most always use pen & paper first. nice & portable. i no longer have a laptop! don't think i have a best place to write. #8GS0
5:47 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	@olugbemisola If this is too personal, forgive me. Do you pray about your writing? (as one who does herself) #8gs0
5:47 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque wish that i was someone who could write at cafes-i used to fantasize about that as a kid, but most times that i try #8GS0
5:47 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i feel extremely pretentious. i like working at home, in public libraries...school library is great too. #8GS0
5:48 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola Pen & paper gets the ideas flowing, for sure. #8GS0
5:48 pm	olugbemisola:	@SaraLewisHolmes yes and yes! i pray a lot about the 'getting out of the way' that we talked about earlier. #8GS0
5:48 pm	KarenMusings:	RT @olugbemisola: i most always use pen & paper first. nice & portable. <-- Starting to realize this now too. Laptops distract me. #8GS0
5:49 pm	olugbemisola:	@SaraLewisHolmes for 'eyes that see' and 'ears that hear'. #8GS0
5:49 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola how do you know when your book ends? #8GS0
5:49 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Are any of yr favorite places in Brooklyn mentioned in the book? (Love our borough! = another thing I connected with.) #8GS0
5:49 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola Who're some of the writers who've inspired you? #8GS0
5:49 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown i really believe that, then by the time i get to the computer, i've done some revising and thinking already #8GS0
5:50 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown for SUPERZERO, and for my WIP, I had the end in mind very early on #8GS0
5:51 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque Brooklyn Bridge!i love seeing the sun rise up there. i love seeing people of all sizes, shapes, colours, ages, #8GS0
5:51 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque physical abilities, traveling back & 4th on foot, on bicycles, in wheelchairs -- everything. #8GS0
5:51 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola @StephanieDBrown 2 go back 2 something earlier-1 of my fave writing quotes is "A writer does not know what a book is" #8GS0
5:51 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i love that i've been seeing & chatting with some of the same people on the bridge 4 years; #8GS0
5:51 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque sometimes if you haven't been around 4 a while, they ask after you! very cool. i get story ideas up there a lot. #8GS0
5:52 pm	chavelaque:	+ "till he gets to the end of it, & rest must be revised to fit that" - Maxwell Perkins. & that's why I worry when writers submit #8GS0
5:52 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown maya angelou, zora neale hurston, madeleine l'engle, paula danziger, chinua achebe... #8GS0
5:52 pm	AudryT:	:::taking a look to see what #8GS0 is:::::::
5:52 pm	olugbemisola:	c.s. lewis. eloise greenfield, camille yarbrough #8GS0
5:52 pm	chavelaque:	+ before book is done, b/c not all thinking/knowledge of book is there yet, so it isn't really ready to submit. #8GS0
5:53 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque great quote. it was, and is a struggle to avoid that force-fitting trap. #8GS0
5:54 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@chavelaque Great quote! That's why getting through the 1st draft is so important & revising afterward. #8GS0
5:54 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola LOVE the bridge too. In the summer, I walk home across it from work sometimes -- always a great day. #8GS0
5:55 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Key thought of the book is that small things can make a big difference - any small things you'd like Twitterers to know? #8GS0
5:55 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque actually, i guess the bridge features more in my possible ruthie story (so far) than in 8GS0, but it was a big part of #8GS0
5:55 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque the writing process for me #8GS0
5:56 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola Great list of inspiring authors! #8GS0
5:56 pm	olugbemisola:	@StephanieDBrown i love love love to revise #8GS0
5:56 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque a kind word to a family member is just as important as waging a large campaign 4 justice #8GS0
5:57 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque it's good to do things that make u uncomfortable sometimes, and then not feel obligated to do them again #8GS0
5:57 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	Small things: e.e. cummings: "may my heart always be open to little birds who are the secrets of living... #8gs0
5:57 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	+ /whatever they sing is better than to know" #8gs0
5:57 pm	AuthoressAnon:	@olugbemisola @chavelaque May I just say--I WAS THERE watching it unfold behind the scenes! And squeed a lot. =D #8GS0
5:57 pm	chavelaque:	@KarenMusings You asked me the writers of color box question ... I don't know. I'm open to every human story, I hope. #8GS0
5:57 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque bananas are an almost perfect snack (that was one of the last things my mom told me b4 she died) #8GS0
5:58 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i had a banana on release day #8GS0
5:58 pm	chavelaque:	@KarenMusings But the writers themselves can prob. speak better to that question than I. #8GS0
5:58 pm	olugbemisola:	@SaraLewisHolmes that's beautiful #8GS0
5:59 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque i'm going to have one now #8GS0
5:59 pm	KarenMusings:	@chavelaque I agree. Stories are emotional and speak from the heart. And that is universal. #8GS0
5:59 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola Oh, that's wonderful! Your mother is right. Portable, tasty, and cheerful, like a smile: :-) #8GS0
5:59 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	@olugbemisola So is the fact that you ate a banana on release day. :) #8gs0
5:59 pm	AudryT:	Oooh, #8GS0 is all about SUPERZERO, writing, and publishing. Very cool!
6:00 pm	victoriajcoe:	We should all eat a banana now! #8GS0
6:00 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque @saralewisholmes :) #8GS0
6:00 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	RT @olugbemisola: @chavelaque its good to do things that make u uncomfortable sometimes, and then not feel obligated to do them again #8gs0
6:00 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@chavelaque That's so true! I never thought of it...but a banana curves like a smile! :) #8GS0
6:00 pm	olugbemisola:	@victoriajcoe :D #8GS0
6:00 pm	chavelaque:	@olugbemisola @victoriajcoe Yay for bananas! And SUPERZERO! #8GS0
6:01 pm	olugbemisola:	thanks so much, everyone! #8GS0
6:01 pm	victoriajcoe:	@chavelaque @olugbemisola Thanks so much for the chat! #8gs0
6:02 pm	chavelaque:	It's 1 p.m. - thanks so much to you all for joining us!! A transcript will be posted at one of our blogs soon. #8GS0
6:02 pm	KarenMusings:	Thank you @olugbemisola @chavelaque. Great chat. #8GS0
6:02 pm	olugbemisola:	@chavelaque thanks again! and thank you, cheryl! #8GS0
6:02 pm	StephanieDBrown:	@olugbemisola @chavelaque Thank you for a wonderful chat! #8GS0
6:03 pm	bonnieadamson:	@chavelaque @olugbemisola Thank you both! #8GS0
6:03 pm	SaraLewisHolmes:	Hugs to you both. This was lovely. #8gs0
6:04 pm	olugbemisola:	you all made this a pleasure. #8GS0
6:04 pm	olugbemisola:	have a wonderful day! #8GS0
6:07 pm	curiousmartha:	RT @chavelaque: + A big part of being an editor: being humble & getting educated by yr authors, & helping share their story clearly w/ all readers. #8GS0
6:09 pm	kristinlgray:	@chavelaque @olugbemisola Thank you both! #8GS0
6:13 pm	olugbemisola:	& multicultural & multiethnic literature & literacy came up, the importance of education & engaging... #8GS0
6:14 pm	olugbemisola:	wanted to share some resources: @readingincolor @mitaliperkins @CrazyQuilts @CynLeitichSmith @debreese @chasingray #8GS0
6:14 pm	olugbemisola:	@coloronline @thebrownbookshelf (28 days later coming soon!) @BronzeWord @nathaliemvondo #8GS0
6:14 pm	olugbemisola:	Bowllan's Blog at SLJ: http://tinyurl.com/5sgce5 Doret at http://thehappynappybookseller.blogspot.com/ #8GS0
6:16 pm	olugbemisola:	reading the world challenge @ http://www.papertigers.org global reading challenge@ http://2010globalchallenge.blogspot.com/ #8GS0

An Unexpected "Thank You"

When I was trying to think what I wanted to write for a Thanksgiving post, Alanis Morissette's "Thank You," off her 1999 album "Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie," popped into my head as a silly joke. Alanis? For Thanksgiving? She's Canadian, for goodness's sake. But I have always liked her for her emotional nakedness and sheer belting, and liked the song, too, for its hypnotic rhythm and narrative of slow progress toward health and peace. And when I thought more about the lyrics of the chorus:

thank you india
thank you terror
thank you disillusionment
thank you frailty
thank you consequence
thank you thank you silence

I realized how interesting and appropriate they would be for Thanksgiving. Because the song is not about giving thanks for good things, like I do every day, for sweet potatoes and my family and James and a warm bed and the novels of Georgette Heyer; but rather giving thanks to things, sometimes (not always) hard things, for experiences that made me better by pushing me beyond where I had been. And Thanksgiving at its best is meant to be both, I think: a peaceful moment of good things, celebrating a respite from the difficult ones; and gratitude for all of the harvest of one's year.

So there is no way to make this lyrically pretty, no matter what beat I put under it, but I would say thank you to rejection, anxiety, and self-consciousness; Park Slope United Methodist Church; my authors; my commenters here; various people discussing various questions in children's literature; therapy, yoga, running; Kickstarter; the bloggers at the Atlantic; and all the people in my life, especially my friends. And I am thankful for many of those same things, and for cuisines from around the world and good movies and independent bookstores and my running shoes and blonde hair, and public transportation even when I curse it, and my job even when I want to do nothing, and James Franco on "General Hospital" and "Glee" and the good gentlemen of Project Rungay, and for many things more. And for Alanis, too, for always being so thoroughly herself.

Happy Thanksgiving, all!

Those Interested in Issues of Race and Children's Literature . . .

. . . should check out this interesting post and discussion today at Ta-Nehisi Coates's blog, as I think a lot of what he and his commenters say about the writers and characters on television could apply to our discussions of children's publishing as well. I was especially struck first by this:

But whenever I read that XX field isn't diverse enough, I don't so much doubt the truth of it, as I think the charge deeply underestimates exactly the price being exacted for white supremacy in this country, and the length of time for which it went unchecked. We're 50 years into a truly democratic, non white-supremacists America. Congratulations. But we we spent some 150 years in which the country's major institutions--its government, its business, its churches, its block associations, its military, its police force, its labor unions--in the main, aided and abetted white racism. There are certainly exceptions, but I tend to think that the long-term damage done is incalculable and has a lot to do with how we live today.

and then later by these comments, also from Ta-Nehisi:

For minorities, I think people really need to think about what kind of people go into writing, and what sort of backgrounds they generally hail from. I know in magazines, the sort of profile for writers (family, generally, pretty well-educated, sent the writer to an Ivy) doesn't match up that well with black people. People always ask "Why aren't there many minority XXX?" But there are a lot of questions that should precede that one.

. . .

Again, speaking only for magazines, it takes a particular person who can write, and then a particular person who can write in that format. This isn't simply a talent question, it takes a particular endurance, and it takes time to develop that endurance. How do you get that time? Money--or a willingness to live without it. Take color out the equation--there are very few people who can do the job. Finding good writers--of any color--is extremely difficult.

Now, just speaking for a black people, look at a group that's only 13 percent of the pop, and isn't as well educated. Then take the fact that the group's families tend to be less wealthy, thus making it hard to get the time to get good. Take into account that, often, when someone from this group "makes it" they have brothers/sisters/mothers/grandmothers/grandfathers who they have to also worry about. I think a lot of us say, "Man, I kids to feed" and go for the sure thing. The point is that you're already talking about a small pool, and for black people it's almost certainly even smaller.

Does this mean media should say, "Oh well, we tried." Nope. But it means media should get smarter. If you really are concerned about diversity then you need to start with high school kids. You can't start looking for fully formed adults. You need to set aside fellowships for people from particular economic backgrounds to help them learn the craft. You have to think broader and bigger.

I don't disagree with the core goal, I just suspect that it may require more than we think.

I've been thinking a lot about the "Why are there so few minorities in children's literature?" question since the Liar controversy -- well, before then, too, but Liar was the tipping point for me, as it was for many people -- and I think these comments get at one part of an answer (though of course not the whole answer, if such a thing were even possible). I genuinely do not receive many submissions from people of color (who can be identified as such, that is), and with those that I do, as TNC says, "It takes a particular person who can write, and a particular person who can write in that format" -- someone who wants to write the literary sort of book we publish at Arthur A. Levine Books, and can pull it off to our standards. (And I acknowledge here the problematic nature of "literary" and "standards," though I'm not going to go into that at this hour of the night.) The point is, that is not a large pool of writers altogether of any race, and as black people (to take the minority TNC is thinking of) are thirteen percent of the population, the segment submitting mss. to us, and therefore getting them published, is correspondingly rather small.

None of which excuses any publisher from a responsibility to remember the shameful history TNC alludes to in the first paragraph I quoted, and to try to represent all voices now (which we at AALB do), and even to go beyond that -- to get smarter, as he says above. And I am really, genuinely, not meaning to make excuses with this post, and I'm sorry if you're hearing it that way. I'm saying, as I understand TNC to be, that if we look at the question culturally, there are larger reasons this lack of minorities is happening in our industry, and across most media; and while we need to address the problem where we live, certainly, these reasons are worth thinking about as well.

ETA: I withdraw this post. Just read the comments on it.

On Protests and Publishing

And now, a conservative Christian group protests Luv Ya Bunches.

Of course, this was only to be expected; that's the way conservative Christians roll, and it's their absolute right to do so. But if you disagree with them -- as I do, as a Christian myself, a reader, and a human being -- then please think about this: This Christianist* organization is bringing negative economic pressure to bear by threatening to boycott an entire company based on one title. This hurts a lot of people -- my company**, sure, and all my authors, but also the authors from other companies who are represented in the Fairs, and their respective publishers.

But we readers can create positive economic pressure in a way that actually benefits the publishing industry and the authors we support. And that's by buying books with gay characters -- either the book in question if it's in a Fair, which will prove desire for such books outweighs the repressive effects of the Christianists, or other books in the bookstores, which does the same in the trade.*** I'm suggesting this because publishing is a business, and, as we all know from Capitalism 101, sales success speaks just as loudly as moral indignation in the business world -- even more loudly, in some ways, because it means consumers are literally putting their money where their mouths are. That's what this Christianist organization has done by threatening to withhold sales from the company simply because it has dared to list a book with lesbian moms. And that's what we fans of lesbian moms can do too, and counteract the organization's effects at the same time, by buying Wide Awake, or Absolutely Positively Not, or Absolutely Maybe, or Totally Joe, or Everywhere Babies (one of my personal favorite picture books ever), or Twelve Long Months, or many other wonderful titles.

If books with gay characters sell well, more writers will feel free to write them, it will be easier for editors to acquire and publish them, and there will be more of them in the world. But that responsibility for sales rests with readers and book-buyers as much as it does with publishers, to show that there's a demand for such characters against those who'd like to repress their very existence. If you care about this cause, then read the books, write the books, but please, also, buy the books and get other people to buy the books. Every book really does make a difference.

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* A term borrowed from Andrew Sullivan to identify people who use their Christian faith for a right-wing political agenda. See his explication of it here.
** Yes, this relates to a division of the company for which I work (not my division), and so the caveat in the sidebar of my blog applies here more than ever: All opinions expressed here are only my own, and are not the official views of said company. But I would feel the same way and say the same things if it were a different company.
*** Actually, this could also apply to books with black characters, or Native American characters, or differently abled characters, or any group whose existence is underrepresented or often challenged in literature and you would like to see more books with them. It is more Capitalism 101 to say that the business world loves success and tries to duplicate it endlessly -- witness the spate of paranormal romance titles in the wake of Twilight. Make a real success happen for a book you love, and more books like it will follow.

I'm Ba-a-ck!

Back-ish, anyway. I spoke at the Western Washington SCBWI retreat last weekend -- a lovely conference -- and two of my three Fall 2010 novels are now in copyediting, with the next to follow within the week (right, Author Who Should Be Revising Rather Than Reading This Blog or Facebook*?), so I am now free, by my own standards, to blog again at will. But it seems to be taking a little time to move my brain from a work place to a blog-writing place, so here are some tidbits to get it going again:

• Kidlit Drinks Night tonight (Thursday the 12th) at the Globe Bar on 23rd! I'll be there at 6; Betsy will join us at 7-ish; all shall be swanky.
  
• A lovely, lovely book I edited, The Snow Day by Komako Sakai, was named a New York Times Best Illustrated Book! It has also been named a Kirkus Reviews Best Book for Children. I adore this book for how beautifully it evokes a day spent inside, waiting for the snow to stop, but there's a real emotional wallop to it, as you realize how very present the missing character actually is all that day. Writers, if you're going to do a quiet book, this is a good model for its careful precision, pacing, and scope.
  
• And Marcelo in the Real World by Francisco X. Stork was named both a Publishers Weekly Best Book and an Amazon.com Teens Top Ten.
  
• And The Snow Day, Bobby vs. Girls (Accidentally) by Lisa Yee, and Wishworks Inc. by Stephanie Tolan were all named to the New York Public Library's One Hundred Titles for Reading and Sharing.
  
• And in AALB-wide accolades, Tales from Outer Suburbia by Shaun Tan was both a NYT Best Illustrated and a PW Best Book, and Lips Touch by Laini Taylor was also a PW Best Book, and Blue Mountain Trouble by Martin Mordecai was also a Kirkus Best Book!
• My church's annual holiday crafts fair -- a great place to pick up beautiful handmade gifts and participate in a silent auction for services from local businesses -- will be this Saturday from 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. at Camp Friendship, on 8th St. just below 6th Ave. in Park Slope. I will again be donating an hour of editorial services of some kind (bidder's choice) for the silent auction (opening bid $40, all proceeds to benefit the church); if you're interested in bidding remotely, e-mail me at the address associated with my website.
• And speaking of my website, I finally reestablished links to my complete book list and a bunch of other resources on the Etc. page, like the Annotated Query Letter from Hell.

I think that will do for a blog-brain warm-up. In the words of Jim Anchower, I look forward to rapping at you again soon.**

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* Kidding, with great love and understanding, since I am always, always Editor Who Should Be Reading a Manuscript Rather Than Writing This Blog or Facebook.
** Or in the words of Smoove B, I have missed you, my one true blog reader, and I will soon break it down with you again. Damn.

Welcome, SLJ Readers! + Next Kidlit Drinks Night

If you're coming here for the first time because of Betsy's kind article in School Library Journal, thank you for stopping by! I appreciate the time and attention. I'm a senior editor at Arthur A. Levine Books/Scholastic, where I edit and publish a wide range of books, and I've also been a blogger here at Brooklyn Arden since 2005 -- sometimes about personal stuff, sometimes work or kidlit or writing stuff, sometimes recipes, sometimes nonsense. I also have a website where many of my past talks for writers are archived, at www.cherylklein.com, plus I Twitter.

As you'll see from my post on October 1 below, the blog has mostly been on hiatus for the last month while I've been concentrating on work projects and some upcoming speeches I'm giving; but you might be interested in these past posts about children's literature or writing:

• Theory: A Definition of YA Literature
• Behind the Book: Marcelo in the Real World (and the other "Behind the Book" posts)
• Defining Good Writing
• Seven Reasons Why People Love Harry Potter
  
• Flap Copy: Three Takes on Operation Yes
  
• Four Techniques to Get at the Emotional Heart of Your Story
• Rhymes with "Float 'Em" (my take on the Higher Power of Lucky controversy)
  
• I Have Been Half in Love with Easeful Death (on teenage girls, love, and death in literature)
  
• Allegory, Schmallegory: A Big Fat "Feh" for The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
• Some Thoughts on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
  

(A little aside to longtime blog readers: The green satin cocktail dress I cite as one of my favorite things in life? It's the one I'm wearing in the picture that accompanies the article -- very Mad Men.)

And for everyone: Our next NYC Kidlit Drink Night will be Thursday, November 12, at the Globe Bar on 23rd St., between Lexington and 3rd Ave. -- the very bar where the cover and photos for that article were shot. The festivities will start a little after six. If you'd like to get an e-mail reminder about this or be on the mailing list for future Kidlit Drink Nights, send a message to nyckidlitdrinks at gmail dot com and we'll sign you up.

Thank you again for visiting; please come back; and happy November!

In Which Two of My Favorite Things Come Together in Random Awesomeness

Namely, A Curse Dark as Gold and High School Musical. Yes, now you can see Troy Bolton and Gabriella Montez stand in for Randall and Charlotte in one of the most romantic scenes from the book . . . sort of:



Thanks to Elizabeth Bunce for the link and YouTube user demilovatoandselenaz for her enthusiasm!

How Do I Love Plot Diagrams? Let Me Count the Ways.

Also, I worship Jennifer Crusie. Fellow plot dorks, behold this link. That is good stuff. Goodbye.

Midmonth Hello

Miss you, darlings. Some quick points:

• Hooray for Laini Taylor, whose AALB book Lips Touch: Three Times is a National Book Award finalist!
• I love Glee with the white-hot heat of a thousand suns. No musical ever dared plot twists like the pregnancy storylines; no high school soap opera was ever this funny; no over-the-top comedy ever had musical numbers that rocked as hard as this or were as gorgeous as this. And sometimes those things jar against each other, sure, or against the odd way the writers seem to think every episode must include a non-parodic moral, but for an hour of pure entertainment, I defy you to show me something better on television.
  
• The writer and blogger Caleb Crain recently defined "depth" on his blog as "a sense of the complexity of reality." That's precisely what I mean when I say I'm looking for a novel with literary depth: I want fiction that presents the complexity of reality (which could be a funny or romantic reality as well as a tragic one--indeed, most realities are in more than one mode), and writers who can make those realities tangible and meaningful.
• Olugbemisola Rhuday-Perkovich of the upcoming Eighth-Grade Superzero had a fascinating interview recently on the Writers Against Racism blog. (Francisco X. Stork was featured in September.) I understand the organizers are looking for more contributions from professionally published writers, illustrators, editors, and educators of all races; if you're interested, e-mail Amy Bowllan here with 350-word-or-less answers to the questions each interviewee has been posed.
• Harry Potter fans will appreciate the cartoon here.
  
• Where the Wild Things Are . . . The beginning and end in the real world felt pitch-perfect to me; the middle I was less sure about, because I'm not sure what the filmmakers intended by making the Wild Things so gabby and querulous. (In the book Max appears to leave more or less as soon as the wild rumpus ends; here he hangs around for forty minutes and discovers the compromises of adulthood, which Sendak spares him.) But a lovely film to look at all the way through.
  
• And Bright Star rekindled my long-dormant college crush on Keats. Three lovely quotes:
  

1. "Do you not see how necessary a world of pains and troubles is to school an intelligence and make it a soul?"
2. "I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the heart's affections and the truth of the imagination."
3. "several things dove-tailed in my mind, and at once it struck me what quality went to form a Man of Achievement, especially in Literature, and which Shakespeare possessed so enormously -- I mean Negative Capability, that is, when a man is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason -- Coleridge, for instance, would let go by a fine isolated verisimilitude caught from the Penetralium of mystery, from being incapable of remaining content with half-knowledge. This pursued through volumes would perhaps take us no further than this, that with a great poet the sense of Beauty overcomes every other consideration, or rather obliterates all consideration."

And with that I return to being the annoying gadfly to great writers and irritably reaching after fact and reason in their novels. Happy October!

Talking and Writing, Past, Future, and Present

First off: If you missed my below-mentioned Twitter chat with Sara Lewis Holmes today, you can read the full transcript on her blog. It was a great conversation, with lots of meaty stuff about process and character -- thanks to all who stopped by! And you can bop on over to Sara's blog here for a fun writing contest to win a signed copy of Operation Yes.

I had a lovely time at the SCBWI Midsouth conference this past weekend, with lots of good hospitality and wonderful writers. If you were in my “Dimensions of Character” session, the broad structure of that talk (the create-a-character exercise chart, mostly, which I also used in “The Whole Shebang”) is on the web here. If you were in the “Principles of Plot” session, the character-based plot structure described therein is available here, and you should also check out the Essentials of Plot talk on my website. If you wanted to hear more about any of the books I mentioned in my talks, check out the “Behind the Book” tag at the right, which features past essays on several of the titles I’ve edited. And finally, my submissions guidelines are here.

I have a very full schedule of talks and conferences planned for next spring; as of today, here’s the present lineup:

• Austin, Texas, SCBWI, January 29-30 (the same weekend as SCBWI Midwinter in New York). I’ll be doing one talk by myself and a joint session with Sara Lewis Holmes describing the creation and editing of Operation Yes. “Opportunities” with me and several other editors (including the awesome Lisa Graff) have apparently sold out already, but I’ll be around all weekend and generally do not eat people who try to make conversation with me. Generally.
  
• Southern Breeze SCBWI in Atlanta, February 26-28. I don't yet know what I'll be talking about there.
  
• Children’s Literature Festival in Warrensburg, Missouri, Sunday, March 14: I’ll be giving the keynote speech at the annual luncheon here—an invitation I received entirely on my own merits, of course, with absolutely no nepotism or personal connection involved.* The talk will be called “Raised by Reading,” and it won’t be a writing talk so much as a personal and children’s books reflection talk.
  
• Books by the Bay Multicultural Literary Conference in Mobile, Alabama, March 17-19. This is a new writers’ conference especially for people of color, sponsored by an organization called the Multicultural Literature Advocacy Group, and it will include a summit on improving opportunities for authors of color as well as a writing and submissions workshop. I’ll be giving a plot talk and participating in the summit.
• Carleton College Convocation speech, April 23. This also won’t be a writing talk so much as a children’s-books-and-the-awesomeness-of-Carleton talk. And I can talk about those two things for a very, very long time.
  

Then at that point I will dissolve into a small puddle of literary goo. But I’m looking forward to the chance to see so many friends in places I love, and also to go to parts of the country where I’ve never spoken before. I still have one slot available in my speaking schedule for autumn 2010, for a late-October or early November writers’ conference; if anyone is interested in having me then, I can be contacted through the address on my website.

Finally, because I’m now editing a bunch of novels, prepping my speeches for the Western Washington SCBWI retreat, and readying my own book for publication, I’m taking the month of October and the first couple weeks of November off from all online social media. . . . No blogging,** no Twitter, no child_lit, not much Facebook. SQUID responses will also be delayed in this time.*** I’ll miss you, but I shall have much to be thankful for when I’m back in November and all of this is done. Have a great month in the meantime!

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* (My grandfather founded the Festival.)
** With the exception of good stuff related to my books.
*** Read: If you’re impatient for an answer, don’t submit until late November.